Prioritizing New Ideas, Projects and Pushing Through Burnout with Lisa Huff

I'm assuming what ... I'm assuming the reason why you may be semi, semi-inspired to talk about this is because you had the resource fair, and I assume that there was a ton of different ideas and different routes. Mm-hmm. And everybody was so inspired, and everybody, nobody knows where or how or wh- or when to start- Yes.

on all of these things. And not only that, but they already have shit that they're doing- Mm-hmm. and implementing. So then they get these new, these brand-new ideas, and then it's like h- what do I prioritize, where do I go, what do I do?

Yep. So I'm assuming that that is what i- has, has inspired you to want to talk about this. Yeah. So tell me where your thought, whe- where that brings your thoughts to.

Yeah. I mean, and, uh, obviously the easy answer is, like, don't get distracted by all the ideas, keep doing what you're supposed to be doing, but, like, there's also a fine line of, like, you've implemented all the things, and, like, when do you decide that it is time for new ideas? Like, when do you realize- Mm-hmm. that you are in a space that you can take that in?

How do you choose what they are? How do you bring in little tasks into your business that aren't already part of your regular flows? How do you decide when that's appropriate? And then how do you actually start to do it?

Yeah. Do you have a process for that or a solidified, like, answer to that? I mean, I do, like, post-it planning, and th-the not all of it's gonna get done, but some of it will. And, like, I just kind of also say, like, if things, if this idea, like, festers long enough- Right.

and the time doesn't happen, time doesn't happen, but the stick- you know, it stays on the to-do list, it stays important, it stays relevant eventually, um, you do that, but I would also love to hear your process on it. Yeah, um, you know, I will say that I allow for fluidity in my business sometimes. Mm-hmm. I would say I've gotten a lot tighter and more boundaried when it comes to distractions and things like that- Mm-hmm.

a- and new ideas at this point, because in the past, I have noticed how getting distracted or new, shiny things that I chase have t- have literally, tangibly , um, decreased the results of what I was mainly doing. Mm-hmm. Like, I have, I, I've, I kind of, like, learned my lesson the hard way, you know? Mm-hmm.

Um, and so because of having that previous experience, I kind of, I, I try my best to be very disciplined in my focus, and that does not mean, though, that I don't leave room for ideas. And inspiration. Mm-hmm. And, uh, yeah.

What I try to first off and foremost look for is, is ideas and stay open to and also always ask my, my team for feedback about ideas around what the current focus is, right? Mm-hmm. So, like, if we have a current focus and current goal in our business, how can we take all the creativity of new ideas and new, exciting concepts and then apply it to the main thing that we're focused on- Mm-hmm. so that it's not pulling my energy too far away from the main thing that I want to make happen and, and make successful?

Well, and what if you even went back into, like, the main thing? Like wh- how did you even get to that point and get that so crystal clear? Because don't y- I know you said, like, oh, with time, it's become tighter and tighter, but, like, back when it was looser and you even found what you have currently. Oh.

You know, like, I think that's a fascinating process for people too. Um, I think looking and seeing, like, what's already working. Mm-hmm. And then, and I talked about this a little bit in our last episode, but- Mm-hmm.

like, it's, it's looking a- on paper, on your business, what's already working, like, what is already making you money, and then doubling down on it, because if there's something that's already working, then there's probably something that you're doing to make it work. Mm-hmm. So then it's a lot easier and less risky to make the thing that's already working, take that thing, and then just double down on it. Mm-hmm.

So it's like a ma- like, so let's say that Instagram is working really well for you. Like, let's say that Instagram is, like, the, is the main way that you're getting clients into your chair, and you're getting, like, five to ten new client requests a, a month from that, right? Mm-hmm. Can you imagine if you doubled the effort that you were putting into your Instagram, right?

Like, what would happen at that point if you took what's already working and you poured more time and energy into something that's already proven to work versus taking something else and trying t- to make that work, which is gonna take away energy from what's already working - Mm-hmm. so then it's gonna lessen the results fr- of that. You have risk of the new thing not working out, and then you end up being in a space where you have to catch up possibly. Mm-hmm.

And, you know, I'm not saying that this is the experience that everybody's gonna have every single time that they implement something new or try something new. You, there has to be space, and, and there are definitely times for more, like, exploration and, like, trying something new, for sure. Um, but I, I've just found that, like, if I'm thinking really analytically and in a very safe way, I can take what is already working and put a fuckton of effort into that and take risks within that, right? Mm-hmm.

'Cause I just said the word safe- Mm-hmm. Calculated risks, yeah. but I'm taking what's already working that has great foundations, and then I'm taking risks within that because I know that if I, that the swings that I take will b- be the biggest hits within that thing, 'cause I've already built a foundation for it. Mm-hmm.

And if I miss, then it's not that big of a deal because I haven't wasted much time or e- effort on the wrong thing. Yeah. If that makes sense. Yeah.

No, that makes perfect sense, and I totally get where you're at with that. Uh, uh, so I wanna know, when you were saying, like, education, implementation, like, we're both really, like, close hand-in-hand with people, like, where did that thought come from? Let's see what that starts to spark. Uh, I don't wanna discourage anybody.

Mm-hmm. It's a fine line. So it's like, what is thin- what I'm thinking right now is, is like, particularly to what we're doing and who we're teaching- Mm-hmm. this shit's a lot.

Mm-hmm. Like, it's a lot. I mean, I, it's- it's why I have the education that I have, is- is because- Mm-hmm. you are already working a full-time job.

Mm-hmm. Like, you're already working a full-time job. And as, a- a- and- and- and at its core, right, you could accept that full-time job for what it is, you know, and- and- and have the same average salary that everybody else has within that core job, you know, and- and- and- and what you would normally expect from it, and accept the day-to-day of that. Actually, the majority of hairstylists and beauty professionals, that's what they do.

Yeah. We just don't know them because we attract a different breed. Yes. Exactly.

I think we forget that, like, we're in this- Well, yes. bubble of people who are- are thinking that or believe that there i- and understand that there is more for them- Yeah. if they are willing to put in some extra work to make it happen. Mm-hmm.

And so when you sign up to take this career, this full-time job, but then develop it into something even bigger and better for you, you're taking on a whole new role. Like, you are taking on a whole new job. And like, I'm not even just talking about, like... Like, not only do you have the full-time job of literally just doing the fucking hair, right?

But then also- Which is, like, physically exhausting and like, uh- Physically, mentally exhausting. takes a lot of time, yes. Emotionally exhausting. Mm-hmm.

It truly is. And also, like, you are, you are, you are thinking in a scientific way, in the way that you are approaching- Oh. the way that you are- are- are doing the actual services. You are emotionally draining yourself with the interactions that you're having with people throughout the day.

Oh. And you are physically, laboriously popping off all throughout the day, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Then you, if you do own your business, then it's not just about the growth of the business, right? Because that's what I'm kind of referring to, at- at least at the beginning of what I was saying. But it's also about the main- maintenance of the bu- like the bare minimum of maintaining- Yeah. the business and keeping it fucking open, right?

Mm-hmm. So, like inventory, for example, cleaning that shit- Totally. Mm-hmm. et cetera, et cetera, right?

So it's like you are, you are signing up for... First off, if you're gonna be a owner of your own business in any way, shape, or form, you are signing up for being fully responsible for that maintenance on top of your full-time job- Mm-hmm. of doing the hair, right? Mm-hmm.

If you are gonna sign up for s- tapping into the potential that this has for you and developing it to a new level in which you are able to continuously do what you absolutely love for a living, but then make a really fucking badass living doing it- Mm-hmm. and also be able to work less and create a great lifestyle for yourself while doing it, then you are signing up for having probably, like, three different jobs. Yeah. Like, you're working three jobs.

Yeah. Right? So I guess I just wanna say that, like, it's- it's- it's really... I just f- I just understand when people are burnt out, and they feel unorganized, and they don't know where to focus- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

and th- this just feels really heavy. Yeah. Like, I just, I validate that and I understand it. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

And what I hope is, although I am very intense sometimes and I'm very, like- Mm-hmm. fucking business-y and crazy and nerdy about that stuff- . I- I hope that, like, I- I mean, this is why I created Previous Pathway. Like, it's literally, like, the entire foundation of what I created, it's like, what I hope is- is although I'm giving you, quote unquote, "more work"- More to do.

Mm-hmm. that w- I'm giving it to you in the- in the easiest, most tangible way possible that will be, uh, uh, easy for you to implement, but then also- It's well thought out, it's proven. that'll make your life and job easier after you implement it, right? Yeah, yeah.

So yeah, I guess, like, when I, when you brought up this concept to me, it wasn't just... It- it didn't bring up for me just, like, how to prioritize and what to focus on and how to actually implement new ideas. But it also brought up to me just, like, like that this is already a lot, you know? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Like, this is already a lot to do, and it's a lot of work, and I don't blame people for feeling a little burnt out of it. Absolutely. But I- I have a very positive and motivational flip side to it, but I'm gonna pause. Well, here's my thought.

It's a fine line though, because we do attract these... I don't know what we're gonna call them, but I'm one of them, you're one of them, these- Motivated, motivated hairstylists. Over the top motivated. Yes.

So it's this fine line that we balance of as soon as things get even a, uh, inkling of stagnant, we're craving so much more. But then the moment we go for more, it's overwhelm city. Yeah. And it's like, where is that balance?

Because it's like we can say, oh, even if you're overwhelmed, like, just stick with what's working, maintain what's working. But why the hell do we all have that, like, deep, deep, deep inside of us? And I think as much as, like, you want to coach and I want to coach to stylists just doing the day in, day out, and day business, they're drawn to people like us 'cause we've taken it even a step further than that into a career that we're so passionate about. And they feel that passion, that excitement, and they wanna, like, get behind that as well in their own form or, you know, right along with what we're doing.

Yeah, I agree with you. And I think that, like... I mean, I've been talking to... I just talked to this, like, salon suite owner, and they listen to the podcast, so.

Hi. Hello. Hi. Hope that you're doing well.

Uh, they asked me... So basically what they were, what they were talking about was, and I, and I've talked about it on the podcast before, about how there was a huge shift in the independent ownership a- uh, post-pandemic. Yeah. Like, everybody opened up- Totally.

their own suite. But right now, these franchisees are really struggling with churn- Yeah. because one of the, one of the two things h- is happening is either some of these people are actually really entrepreneurial, and they got into a suite, and now they're opening up their own salons. I- I'm seeing that, even within my own community.

Totally. But the majority of it is, if they're i- i- within the churn, not the people who stay- Totally. um, but within the churn is, there's a lot of people who did not realize that they were signing up to run their own fucking business. Yeah.

Particularly a salon suite business, if we're talking about that, where like- Yep. you don't have foot traffic, you don't have the natural marketing of just being around other people, right? Yeah. Um, and people don't really realize, like, what they're signing up for when they become their own business owner.

Um, and- Absolutely. somebody was asking me, like-And I, and they were, they wanted to talk to me about developing a business education thing for them and whatever maybe. And, um, I was like, I asked them, I was like, "Do you guys have parameters for the, the stylists that you bring on?" Because I think it's important for these franchisees, if they want to see longevity in their own businesses, to start to be more picky and choosy about what s- s- stylists sign up to be in these spaces and who they give leases.

Because or else, you're just signing yourself up for a bunch of, of churn and, like, really low retention of your, of your tenants, um, if you're not screening this person to at least have some sort of either strong foundation of clientele, but even that's not enough. Like, actually, like, interviewing them and asking them, like, "What is your plan to continue to do well in your business?" And, like, convince me that you're not going to be bored of owning your own thing- Period. And you're gonna be a good handler.

two years from now because yeah. I mean, I'd be lying if I said I don't think about sometimes just going to clock into a commission salon, because it's just so much easier. I'd be lying if I said I don't think about going to just work at a coffee shop sometimes. How peaceful would that be?

100%, dude. You just walk in, the money's, the money's ticking, you smell good coffee, you clock out. Like, the i- it's interesting the shift, which I won't do, because I have that drive so hard. But it's interesting that, like, overdrive everybody fell into a what have we created, into a where's that happy medium, and let's just let those people fall into the place that fits them better.

Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So this person asks me then, uh, they were like, "Why do you think that these people just don't want the business education?

Or, like, they don't wanna focus on the business?" And I was like, "Well, look at the fucking demographic. Like, look at the industry." Like, the reason people got into this industry was because, number one, they're creative and they're passionate about what they're doing and making an impact on other people.

But also, this is literally, like, the creativity side of it, it's the opposite of the traditional college route where- Yeah. you'd be focusing on more, like, you know, book theory type concepts traditionally, right? Mm-hmm, ok. And so, like, business, the, the concept of business, the study of business, is a study and it's a traditional college route situation, right?

And we went in the other direction, 'cause a lot of that did not resonate for the majority of us, right? Yeah. Like, that's why we got into what we're doing. And so it's like we're taking these, like, really passionate people who originally, like, got into this because they did not want to focus on all of that bullshit and then- And give them no choice but to have to focus on that, yeah.

Literally. Other else you can't sustain a business. Right. And I think that, you know, for me, I would say I didn't realize that I even cared about the business side of things until I got some really great education when I was going through being a business educator.

Like, or sorry, a color educator through a company. Mm-hmm. So, um, the color, the, the company was very business education driven. Like, they took it as a very important part of what they were doing in offering salons, and because of that, even though I was a color educator, I got, like, a lot of business education.

And the way that it was framed, like, made me really feel like there was a strong why and r- a lot more possibility for what's out there for me. Like, and I think that once that bites you in the ass, you know, like, it really forces you to kind of, like, figure out, like, "Okay, I am really passionate. This business stuff isn't really sexy to me, but I do see what's possible for me and that's really exciting." Mm-hmm.

And, and to be able to do this sustainably long term and to be able to make a bigger impact than what you're making right now, it's just essential. Like, it's what you are signing up for, and a lot of people, I don't think, realize how fucking hard it's gonna be. Yeah. And I think that for me, I don't know about you, would you say that, like, when you were really first starting out to, like, get business focused and, like, really start implementing strategies and things like that, would you say that you were ex- like, would you say that you sacrificed a lot?

Time, you mean? Like, what do you mean? Hmm. Yeah.

Time or energy. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think anybody who builds anything great does. Yeah, I mean, I was working my ass off.

I don't know if it felt like a sacrifice at the time. Right. I have always been more truthfully drawn to the thrill of building the business than even doing the hair, uh, personally. Right.

So to me, when I was really growing it, that was, like, feeding a different side of me. Um, so yes, absolutely. I mean, I, I worked way more time and physically and mentally with clients, you know, um, as I was growing that. Do you have a followup to that or...

Do you regret it? Oh, absolutely not. No, I learned everything I needed to learn. And so it's like, for the people who are listening to this, for the people, I mean, I, I mean, I could go into my fucking...

I worked my ass off. Mm-hmm. Um, and granted, I always caveat this with I don't have children, you know? Mm-hmm.

I come from a pretty privileged background. Like, I understand that my, my cert- my experience does not, you know, mean that your experience is, is not valid or whatever maybe. But, like, for me, like, I, I sacrificed a lot and I worked my ass off, you know? And it sucked at times and I was really tired, but then, like, look at what that got me, you know?

Mm-hmm. So, like, for, like, the people who are listening to this, like, who are our people, who are, like, more motivated and, like, understand that there's more for them out there and, like, are willing to put in the work to go chase that. Like, understand, like, yeah, dude, you just signed up for three fucking jobs. Yeah.

Like, you are sign, you just signed up for three different jobs. Like, one full-time and two part-time. So basically two full-time jobs. Yeah.

And you have a personal life on top of that. And I totally see that and I totally respect it. Like, and I understand that that's fucking hard. Mm-hmm.

But you're also building yourself up to something bigger and greater. And like you just said, like, that doesn't come without sacrifice and working through hard times and burnout and not knowing which ideas to put where when you're already so freaking overwhelmed but you're inspired by this new shiny thing, right? Totally. So what would be, like, your prediction then just with how things are going and, like, everyone thought they wanted to take on the three jobs and now a portion are finding that they don't.

Like, is there a happy medium that gives people both or, like, what do you think is that solution?Mm, it depends on what perspective you're talking about. Um, I guess, like, the first thing that comes to mind is, like, I think that there are people who get attracted to business education who aren't as, like I said, like, aren't passionate about the business, and then I think that there are people who are passionate about the business, who, like- Mm-hmm. really get excited by, like, the theory of things, you know?

Mm-hmm. Like you and I do. Mm-hmm. Um, and I think that it's just the people who are going to, who aren't as naturally inclined, possibly, are gonna choose to either stay disciplined and, like, continue to do the hard work even though it fucking sucks, w- and the people who don't are not going to.

And I, what I hope is and what everybody wishes is, I guess, that things will just maintain and stay okay for them moving forward. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

I think that's, like what everybody hai- every hairstylist who doesn't really care about business education really, like, that's how they're living and floating, you know? Do you think the answer for those people is more, like, go a commission route or... I mean, it's, it would be so- It depends. person by person, yeah.

It depends. If your, if your, if, if your situation is, is really low-maintenance for you, then that's fantastic. Yeah. But I mean, yeah.

I, I think, yeah, honestly. I mean, I see these, I work with, I, I work one day behind the chair, and I work in a commission salon now. Mm-hmm. Just because I like to keep my hands in hair, and I like to be around people and do my clients and all that stuff and be able to relate to you guys in one way or another.

Um, and, I mean, I see these commission stylists, and they're not fucking doing shit. They're, like, going in and out of the salon, and they just do not give a damn. I just cannot even imagine what that must feel like. I know.

I, I, and I remember- They just have a life outside of work. Love that. It's wild. No, and, a- and, and I remember, like I said, like, when I got the bug for business, I came back to my, my, my team salon who I grew up with and I had much more closer ties with, and it felt very depressing for me, um, and very confusing to me how everybody else around me was so not as motivated as I was.

Mm-hmm. Um, and I was just like, "If you guys could just see the potential, like if you guys-" Mm-hmm. "... would just, like, do this, you could, like, grow this to something so much bigger."

Yeah. You know? But that's not what people wanna do. People just wanna, like, focus.

Yeah, nobody is in business to give advice to people who aren't even looking for advice. Yeah. So there's no sense in that. Yeah.

I also just wanna go back to the question you asked me earlier about, like, working, hustling, hustling, working really hard, s- making a lot of sacrifices. I also think it's only fair to acknowledge that we're speaking about this in past tense, but, like, we're doing it now, just in a very different way. Oh, 100%. Like, you aren't working your fucking ass off.

You're just building a different business. Um... Yeah. And so it is sometimes kinda wild to talk about it in that way.

Like, yeah, I'm behind the chair two days a week, you're behind the chair one day a week, but we're, like, behind the computer- Yeah. how many days a week? Yeah. We have a full-time job.

I'm running a, I'm running a, I'm r- I have a tea- I have a fucking team. Mm-hmm. But I think it's also to point out to people who think that they want that two-day-a-week schedule, one-day-a-week, three-day-a-week schedule, like, human, most humans do work a significant, um, I mean, a full-time job. Like- ...

you probably don't need as much free time as you think you need. I don't know, and I love our industry because we can shape that to what we need it to be. Because I have- Right. kids, I can get off whatever time I want.

I love that. But I think that's also, like, a big lie and a big misconception that people are sold, because it's a pain point, and it speaks to people as, you know, in marketing of, like, you can cut your hours so much, you can do this, you can do that. But, like, then what? Then what are you doing with your time?

That's almost going back to our last episode. Then you get to the point where you're bored, and you're like, "Oh, what is it?" And you're just adding in something new, and it's like, is that really your purpose and your calling right now? Or are you just, almost have so much time at your disposal and so much information coming in that you're wondering where to go with it?

Yeah. I had a stylist get on a one-to-one with me a while ago, and they were, like, thinking, like, they just felt so burnt out, and they, like, were like, "I'm, think I'm done w- with this, and I'm going to go to college and, like"- Mm-hmm. "... go the traditional route."

And I was like, "Do you feel like you're gonna feel the same, like, is there a possibility that you would feel the same burnout in a traditional nine-to-five job where, like"- Yeah. "... you don't have the flexibility, where, like, you're not expressing creativity and, like, doing art to make a living and, like, also making an impact on other humans' lives?" Yeah.

Like, I think it's really important to remind yourself of, like, how fucking cool is it that you get to make any money- Yeah. doing this? Right? Yeah.

And then it's like, how cool is it that you can choose to sacrifice and put in fucking hard work even when it sucks to be able to maximize that gift that we have, that we get to do every day to make a living? Mm-hmm. You know? Like, you're either gonna be working your ass off at something that you're miserable doing- Mm-hmm.

or you're gonna be working your ass off at something that is really beautiful and passionate, that offer, that has the potential to offer you much more. You know? So it's like- And I think that just comes down- ... choose your, choose your- ...

to the self-awareness. Yeah, if you would be more happy, you know, just doing the mundane tasks, like we joked about earlier, that is building something for somebody else, that's one thing. But, like, when you come down to it, and more power to somebody who chooses to go back to school, I can't even imagine what that- Oh, yeah. must be like.

But, like, do you really think you're gonna feel less overwhelmed doing that, studying till 2:00 AM t- for your final than you will- Oh. navigating your fully clientele that you just feel overwhelmed by? Yeah. I think- Right.

we all just need to, like, simplify the hell out of things. Yeah. And this person messaged me, like, two months later, I, I think, and was like, "Hey, what you said really resonated with me. I thought about it a lot, and I actually went to, went to therapy, and I realized, like, I was depressed and anxious, and, like, it had nothing to do with the business."

And now- Look at that. "And now I'm doing so much better, and now the business is doing better." And I'm like, that's why I say, like, separating the business from your personal- Mm-hmm. is so important, and looking at your business as, like, its own bre- living, breathing entity- Mm-hmm.

instead of it being you. Because, like, if you look at it as, like, a tool, like, if you look at it as, like, more of, like, a separate physical thing from you, and you look at it as, like, not the thing that you are relying on for fulfillment in your life- Mm-hmm. then you can look at it as something where you are fueling yourself personally in your personal life to be able to show up and give that thing the energy that it needs to then feed back into you. Yeah.

You know?It's not- Um- ... constantly attached, laying in bed with you at night every night, yeah. Yeah.

It's, like, this separate thing. And God forbid if something ever even did happen to it, you're still your own human. Like, it has all its own gifts and- and s- important things in life. And, um, it is definitely a healthy removal that I think a lot of us struggle with.

Yeah. I had a life coach one time say, like, "If you're looking at your business for fulfillment, then you're signing yourself up for a very toxic relationship." Mm-hmm. Because you ...

In, like, in your traditional relationships, you're looking for stability and you're looking for, uh- Companionship. Yeah. Yeah. Companionship, and you're looking for somebody who is ...

Like, I mean, like, if your partner's sad, you're sad. Like, if your partner's angry, you're angry. Mm-hmm. If your partner's happy, you're happy, right?

Your business, if it's not, quote-unquote, doing well, or if it feels really hard, you don't want to attach your, the way that you're d- ... Like, how you're being in your personal life- Showing up, yeah. to that rollercoaster. Yeah.

You know, that is a toxic relationship. That's like- Yeah. just not, it's not healthy for you. Yep.

And, you know, I'm not saying that it's easy. I call Lee- Easier said than done. Mm-hmm. 100%.

I call Lisa up all the time, freaking the fuck out about my business. Yeah. And, like, saying that it's affecting the shit out of me, and I can't stop- Mm-hmm. thinking about it every day.

So it's like, I'm not saying that it's easy, but it's a, it's, I think it's something, a philo- philosophical practice that I think is important. That you can pull back up and say, "No way. Who is Hunter outside of my business?" Yes.

"Who are the people that I love? What are the things that I can do that make me smile, that make me laugh outside of this?" Yes. Yeah.

I think we all need a good dose of that all the time. Yeah. 100%. This conversation went in a different direction.

Sorry. I know. It did. My bad.

I mean, we didn't, that's o- that's okay. We didn't pre-plan a ton of it. We just, I- I think we have so many good conversations when we're just on the phone that honestly we need to do this every so often so it can just be documented, 'cause it's powerful- I agree. it's important, and I'm, I, hopefully people are entertained and enjoy just kind of this, like, super casual candor- Back and forth.

back and forth. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Do you have anything else you'd like to add? I'm trying to think. I feel like we've gone so many different directions. If I pulled something, it would be so out of left field, so yeah.

Yeah. That's what I was thinking. I was like, I could totally go back to talking about ideas and implementing them, but I feel like that would be weird at this point. No, I think we're good.

I think, I think the overall, for everyone listening, should just be like, and even going back to the woo conversation, take a beat, take a second. Like, where is the root of your stress or your whatever coming from? What is the bigger goal? Are you still excited about that?

Check in with yourself. Are these actions that you're telling yourself you need to take, that you're stressed out about, still in alignment with what you actually want? Yes. Or, like, what is the alternative, and does that actually even beat where you are?

Because my guess is, majority of the time, no, we're just being a little intense. Yes. I, I could not have said that better. That was beautiful.

Yeah. 100%. We'll wrap it up on that, then. All right.

Thanks for tuning in, fam. Lisa, I love you so much. I love you, friend.

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